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Post by David Swanson on Feb 7, 2008 19:10:33 GMT -5
I have been doing some thinking regarding Fred as a potential VP for whoever wins the GOP nomination, and I think I have the formula.
Fred will NOT be a VP pick if Obama get's the Democrat nod. Here's why: I can't bring myself to say his name so I will use 'x' to indicate our nominee.... If x get's the GOP nomination he will have to pick a black man or woman as his VP choice. He will have NO choice. Every time candidate x has something to say about Obama, the left, and the media will scream 'racism', regardless if it's true or not. So the only way candidate x can counter that is by picking a black VP.
If Hillary was to get the Dem nomination, then candidate x could ask someone like Fred to be VP. However, I think this won't happen because Obama will probably win the nomination.
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Post by Downer on Feb 8, 2008 18:57:16 GMT -5
I'll say the name of Colin Powell; Retired General. Moderate Republican. Great mind and dignified. Black. That is a banner name if I've seen one. Stars align with that name and career.
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Post by tnpi on Feb 8, 2008 21:05:06 GMT -5
I thought Colin Powell would have made a great choice. I thought so several years ago too and planned on a Schwarzkopf and Powell ticket together. (wait, here comes a streisand song- Memories..light the corners of my mind.) Man those were good times.
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Post by Downer on Feb 8, 2008 22:13:51 GMT -5
Tnpi, not that I'd still vote McCain, even with Powell as VP cnadidate. John had a promising speech at CPAC, but I don't see those words as honest, in light of his past. He has much convincing to do with me.
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Post by Orv on Feb 8, 2008 22:21:22 GMT -5
Fred may or may not be a VP selection but has apparently come out with a statement today backing McCain. Fred Thompson, the one-time Republican presidential candidate, endorsed Sen. John McCain Friday, calling on the party to "close ranks" behind the presumed nominee.
"This is no longer about past preferences or differences. It is about what is best for our country and for me that means that Republican should close ranks behind John McCain," Thompson said in a statement reported by the Associated Press.blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/08/fred_thompson_backs_mccain.html
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Post by Downer on Feb 8, 2008 22:36:26 GMT -5
That just don't smell right.
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Post by lshaw on Feb 8, 2008 22:49:31 GMT -5
I've tried forming words for here but I'm bamboozled right now. I'm still trying to find a "real" statement from Fred, not a "he said" statement. No MSNBS, FOX, CNN, Tennessee or Va papers have it.
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Post by David Swanson on Feb 8, 2008 23:26:34 GMT -5
Well this hit me like a ton of bricks!
If Fred is really backing McCain this can only mean one thing... McCain is going to offer him the VP slot.
The problem I have with this is... I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. Before I comment on it one way or the other, I think I will sleep on it.
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Post by nana2lily on Feb 8, 2008 23:53:15 GMT -5
I think the statement was simple enough. He could have come out arm in arm with McCain and really hurt us, but he just made a basic statement that for the good of the country we have to back the presumptive nominee. I feel he would have backed Mitt if it had been him.
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Post by Downer on Feb 9, 2008 8:43:38 GMT -5
I'm gonna play devils advocate here. What is wrong with Fred as McCain's VP? What better conservative influence on a RINO's policy and decision than a Vice President Thompson? They did consider themselves very good friends when they served; Fred's not shy and would raise objections if necessary. Maybe the old analogy of keeping friends close and enemies closer fits this scenario. It's still far fetched, but I would seriously reconsider my Nov vote if he was our VP candidate.
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Post by Downer on Feb 9, 2008 8:50:23 GMT -5
Just read this at the Confederate Yankee. Chew on this a bit:
With Romney Gone, It's Thompson Time in the Veepstakes Mitt Romney's gracious withdrawal yesterday at CPAC effectively cemented the Republican nomination for Arizona Senator John McCain, a candidate that I don't particularly like, but one is that is still far superior to either the empty promises of "change" from Barack Obama (presumably from partial presidential incompetence, to total), or the similar economy-killing socialist politics of a character-free Mrs. Clenis.
That support for McCain, however, is very fragile, and could easily be crushed or increased by the presumptive nominee's choice of running mate.
As both Scott Ott and Stephen Green have noted, Fred Thompson would make an excellent Vice Presidential running mate for McCain, balancing McCain's fiery temper and RINO leanings with sound conservatism based upon Federalist principles. That Thompson brings some regional balance to the Arizona Senator's ticket is also something others might note, but I find less important that his principles (full disclosure: Thompson became my favorite for office after Roger L. Simon and I interviewed him for Pajamas Media in November.)
Other conservatives, of course, could be an acceptable choice, but if McCain wants the support of the conservative wing of the party he has so often fought with, he needs a sounds conservative choice as his Veep, not a fellow RINO.
If McCain chooses a fellow liberal Republican—say, for example, social conservative theocrat, but economically liberal and internationally buffoonish Mike Huckabee, or South Carolina's amnesty-loving fellow RINO Senator Lindsey Graham—then any hopes McCain has of the tentative truce between his campaign and the conservative wing of the Republican Party are dashed.
We have nothing but flawed characters remaining in this election, but McCain, for the moment, is the less offensive choice for many. He could go a long way towards building a winning coalition if he recognizes the hopes and fears of his own party by asking a conservative such as Thompson to join him on the ticket, without compromising the "Maverick" reputation that moderates and independents seem to value in his candidacy.
The ball is is McCain's court. We can only hope he plays it wisely.
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Post by David Swanson on Feb 9, 2008 15:54:46 GMT -5
Has anyone gotten a confirmation yet that the Fred statement backing McCain is true?
Nowadays I am so wary of our media, I don't trust them. And honestly, I would be a fool to trust them.
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Post by nana2lily on Feb 9, 2008 17:34:04 GMT -5
I would love to see Fred as VP. The age thing is the only thing that makes me think it won't happen. He would be a great influence on McCain.
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Post by lshaw on Feb 9, 2008 17:55:55 GMT -5
I think any news at all will be on Free Republic and there's 1 thread that's been going since yesterday with nothing new (1400+ posts). www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967466/postsNot a thing so far anywhere other than a Ca. article that says something similar to the blog but only calls him "Thompson". You might not recall, but Tommy Thompson endorsed McCain Wednesday or Thursday.
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Post by David Swanson on Feb 9, 2008 19:11:53 GMT -5
Thanks, this makes a lot of sense.
I will continue to NOT believe what I have been told so far until I hear it from Fred himself.
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Post by David Swanson on Feb 9, 2008 20:42:35 GMT -5
The same thing is being reported over at Hot Air.com, but once you read the whole thing it smells a little fishy.
Here's one of the excerpts from the hotair article.........
The (McCain or Thompson?) campaign would not confirm whether Thompson officially endorsed McCain or not, and sources close to Thompson did not immediately return phone inquiries.
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Post by lshaw on Feb 9, 2008 20:46:36 GMT -5
Exactly, and the networks arn't touching this at all. I think they would have been all over it just to gloat.
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Post by lshaw on Feb 9, 2008 21:03:17 GMT -5
Not a mention of Fred in this new WP blog that mentions other Fred Thompson staffers, etc. McDonnell Endorses McCain McDonnell, along with former Governor George Allen, served as co-chairman of the Fred Thompson campaign in Virginia. But Thompson dropped out, and in the last several days McCain has been continuing to pick up conservative Republican support in Virginia and elsewhere. That includes Allen and U.S. Rep. Eric Cantor. blog.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2008/02/mcdonnell_endorses_mccain.html?nav=rss_blog
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Post by lshaw on Feb 9, 2008 21:06:06 GMT -5
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Post by lshaw on Feb 9, 2008 21:09:50 GMT -5
Do you think someone is trying to push him out to endorse publicly or what do you think?
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Post by lshaw on Feb 9, 2008 21:24:10 GMT -5
Oh, I forgot to add, earlier today I email the AP with the original writer's name and asked for contact with her about the story. No word yet.
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Post by David Swanson on Feb 9, 2008 21:27:13 GMT -5
Honestly.... I have no idea right now.
I mentioned this whole thing to others on another blog and they can only refer to articles that only refer to the wapo post.
I'm as confused as ever. If someone is trying to force Freds hand by doing this, they may get slapped pretty hard by Fred and it could backfire.
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